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Post  jsesere Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:00 pm

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Post  RknRusty Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:30 pm

For another $34.50 you could buy them all fully built from Bernie or Matt. Plus shipping though.
They're only 100 miles from me. Isle of Palms, South Carolina is a nice place for a weekend trip.

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Post  Cox International Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:45 pm


Yes and no.

If someone bought that many of the same our pricing would be in the same range. Also, our shipping cost to international destinations is only $5.95 and not $29.95.

It's not a bad deal but pretty well equal to what we or Matt would offer for such a bulk purchase.
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Post  RknRusty Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:09 pm

And yours would be fully assembled Surestarts with backplates and all, ready to run.

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Post  jsesere Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:13 pm

What kiind of RPM's do Sure Starts have?
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Post  Jason_WI Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:32 pm

Anywhere from 11k to 15k on a 6x3 prop depending on piston/cylinder fit.
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Post  RknRusty Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:05 pm

Same as any Bee. With a 5x3 prop they'll turn faster than that. They don't have SPI but they'll haul any 1/2A around admirably, and you can throttle them very well.

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Post  Big Al Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:10 am

Hey, don’t laugh. Even if he bought them from Estes-Cox when they had them on sale back in March 2005 for $4.99, Cox still charged him $1.00 shipping for EACH engine. They apologized, SORRY, no combined shipping!
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PS. Cox actually advertised ‘Glow Heads’ for $4.99 and stated that incidentally it came installed on a complete SureStart engine. Wonder how many thousands they sold at that price?
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Post  jsesere Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:53 am

I bought 9 new Sure Starts each with a snap starter and cam in the bag for $7.00 each from a guy several years ago. I figure I can use them for parts if nothing else.
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Post  John Goddard Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:29 am

He's also got a sale for 'or best offer'.
I recon someone could get them for a lot less than the 175.
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Post  dankar04 Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:22 am

for $175.00 I would buy some good complete engines. Not a bunch of ho-hum parts engines. lol!
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Post  nitroairplane Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:39 am

175 I could build 2 1/2a rc planes/4 1/2a CL planes/6 1/2a FF planes.
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Post  dankar04 Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:57 am

nitroairplane wrote:175 I could build 2 1/2a rc planes/4 1/2a CL planes/6 1/2a FF planes.


Or a complete arf 2.4 setup/ plane etc.
lol!
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Post  nitroairplane Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:02 pm

dankar04 wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:175 I could build 2 1/2a rc planes/4 1/2a CL planes/6 1/2a FF planes.


Or a complete arf 2.4 setup/ plane etc.
lol!

I hate that word I mean rtf is cool as is bnf but arf that just seems lazy.
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Post  microflitedude Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:53 pm

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dankar04 wrote:
nitroairplane wrote:175 I could build 2 1/2a rc planes/4 1/2a CL planes/6 1/2a FF planes.


Or a complete arf 2.4 setup/ plane etc.
lol!

I hate that word I mean rtf is cool as is bnf but arf that just seems lazy.

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Post  WingingIt74 Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:45 am

Are those cast engines any good? I've been curious about that.
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Post  Cox International Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:57 am

According to Cox (and our tests have substantiated this) the DC crankcases perform equally well or better than the extruded ones. They actually run a bit cooler due to the thermal qualities of the crankcase.

Where we have found shortcomings is when they are used extensively in race applications with small props, high nitro and high RPM. The cast aluminium is a bit softer and will wear out quicker.

However, for the average sport flyer, they are just fine.

Expect to see contradictory opinions, especially from North America. Unfortunately, someone started a rumour in 2008 about the DC's being inferior and that rumour is still sticking to some degree.

The vast majority of our DC engines are sold to Europe, most likely because the crowd there was not privy to the misinformation.


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Post  WingingIt74 Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:04 pm

That's good info to know.
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Post  Cox International Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:20 pm

If anyone is interested I will post a (long) story about the history of the DC crankcases, written by the most famous Cox collector of all - Dan Sitter.
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:29 pm

Cox International wrote:If anyone is interested I will post a (long) story about the history of the DC crankcases, written by the most famous Cox collector of all - Dan Sitter.

That would be cool if it is OK with you.
I never really went for Die Cast crankcases as they in my opinion are not the nicest looking Smile
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Post  WingingIt74 Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:06 pm

I myself would like to read that, I'd start another thread though Smile
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Post  Cox International Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:11 pm


Done!
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Post  nitroairplane Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:18 pm

Thanks Bernie!
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