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.049 Prop bush
Hello from England, got a cox 0.49 cheap from a local bring and buy. I bought some new 5x3 cox props from Xenalook Canada, but they dont seem all that snug a fit on the prop bolt. I thought of reaming the prop and making a bush up from K&S metal tube, but Im not quite sure as cox hardware seems to all American imperial. Can anyone suggest a perfect solution?
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Re: .049 Prop bush
Are they loose and wobbly, or just a light slip fit? A light slip fit will be fine, the grooves in the prop and hub will help keep it aligned. Even if it is loose and wobbly it can still work fine, you will need to use extra care setting it up though.
It it is really loose then maybe finding a tube that fits the #5 screw and reaming to suit might be a good idea. The tube should be notably shorter than the hub, as the hub does compress some.
I have used silicone fuel hose with over sized slow run props quite successfully, so using a rigid tube is not specifically necessary.
Phil
It it is really loose then maybe finding a tube that fits the #5 screw and reaming to suit might be a good idea. The tube should be notably shorter than the hub, as the hub does compress some.
I have used silicone fuel hose with over sized slow run props quite successfully, so using a rigid tube is not specifically necessary.
Phil
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Re: .049 Prop bush
Do you mean it's loose because the screw is smaller than the hole in the prop? If so, then Phil's suggestion of a piece of silicon fuel tube in the rear hole to center the hub is the widely accepted bushing, even recommended by APC propeller company.
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Re: .049 Prop bush
pkrankow: I have used silicone fuel hose with over sized slow run props quite successfully, so using a rigid tube is not specifically necessary.
Like Phil noted, using fuel tubing is a common and effective means to center a prop. The tubing should not extend beyond the hub, since its only function is to keep the prop centered until the prop screw is tightened. After that, the compression on the hub will hold it in place.
1/2A APC props have a large hole in the hub and need either a turned bushing or tubing to help center it.
Like Phil noted, using fuel tubing is a common and effective means to center a prop. The tubing should not extend beyond the hub, since its only function is to keep the prop centered until the prop screw is tightened. After that, the compression on the hub will hold it in place.
1/2A APC props have a large hole in the hub and need either a turned bushing or tubing to help center it.
Re: .049 Prop bush
I had some bushings made for APC props that are very well engineered. Your problem however is with the Cox props themselves. My solution to your problem may or may not help but it's certainly worth trying. If your using a stock Cox screw, I would try another. Use a 5-40 Allen socket head which has a shoulder on the last remaining portion and not threaded the entire length of the shaft. This may just help your loose fit. In addition, many of the steel prop screws are just plain bad, they're not straight which can compound and telegraph bad vibes which can certainly rob performance. The socket head is much harder and not as susceptible to bending and it will square the spinner to the prop correctly vs the other way around. Ken
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Re: .049 Prop bush
Just wrap a strip of paper around the shaft/screw until you get a good fit. Put a drop of glue on it to keep it from unwrapping.
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Re: .049 Prop bush
In the meantime, why muck about? Cox props from Bernie are $1.95 (http://coxengines.ca/propellers/) and whilst a little more expensive from Matt, he has a much wider selection (http://www.exmodelengines.com/propellers/?&sort=orderby&sort_direction=0&objects_per_page=50).
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Re: .049 Prop bush
Ken Cook wrote:I had some bushings made for APC props that are very well engineered. ........ If your using a stock Cox screw, I would try another. Use a 5-40 Allen socket head which has a shoulder on the last remaining portion and not threaded the entire length of the shaft. This may just help your loose fit.
The holes in the smaller APC props are often drilled off center --- APC admits this. However, the recess molded in the back of the hub is centered, but bushings have to have a shoulder that fits snugly and flush. If you either have access to a lathe or someone who can turn these, this is the best approach for APC.
I do the same as Ken WTR COX prop screws. The shorter socket screws are almost always fully threaded, but once you get to an inch in length, they will generally have a shoulder. I buy this type, both for COX replacement and NORVEL replacement screws, then cut to length so that the screw tightens down just before it bottoms out in the shaft. The additional length allows maximum thread contact and helps support the bored out section of the crank.
Re: .049 Prop bush
Just wrap the propscrew with a bit of tape is my easy solution. Use alum duct tape IF you feel the need to get fancy...
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Job done
Thanks for your replies, went with the fuel tube over the screw option. Also now using cox cap head screw and spinner. I will probably try everything in the end, I link to tinker!
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