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Non Cox .049s
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Re: Non Cox .049s
nitroairplane wrote:Yup and that is just what they should not have tried to do!
I seem to remember that, I think it was Frog, went the other way and produced a Wen-Mac with their own name on it!
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Re: Non Cox .049s
Ivanhoe wrote:nitroairplane wrote:Yup and that is just what they should not have tried to do!
I seem to remember that, I think it was Frog, went the other way and produced a Wen-Mac with their own name on it!
Was that frog?
I am sure Keil Kraft did one and put it on a hover craft.
rtf model and named it a diesel model engine even though it was a glow engine.
Re: Non Cox .049s
Kielcraft bought the wenmac and sold as the cobra, Frog had the same engines as DC in the glow the wasp with radial mount fitted was the frog venom
Re: Non Cox .049s
MiniatureAircraftFactory wrote:Kielcraft bought the wenmac and sold as the cobra, Frog had the same engines as DC in the glow the wasp with radial mount fitted was the frog venom
No I am sure the cobra was in fact cox based but there was a wen mac too.
Re: Non Cox .049s
MiniatureAircraftFactory wrote:Kielcraft bought the wenmac and sold as the cobra, Frog had the same engines as DC in the glow the wasp with radial mount fitted was the frog venom
Ah, that's right, the old memory isn't reliable after 40-odd years!
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Re: Non Cox .049s
Ivanhoe wrote:MiniatureAircraftFactory wrote:Kielcraft bought the wenmac and sold as the cobra, Frog had the same engines as DC in the glow the wasp with radial mount fitted was the frog venom
Ah, that's right, the old memory isn't reliable after 40-odd years!
No the cobra was cox based!
Re: Non Cox .049s
nitroairplane wrote:Ivanhoe wrote:MiniatureAircraftFactory wrote:Kielcraft bought the wenmac and sold as the cobra, Frog had the same engines as DC in the glow the wasp with radial mount fitted was the frog venom
Ah, that's right, the old memory isn't reliable after 40-odd years!
No the cobra was cox based!
OK, so who had the Wen-Mac clone? I know there WAS such a thing!
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Re: Non Cox .049s
Yes there was and I am sure it was KeillKraft but it is not the cobra!
This is the cobra http://modelenginenews.org/ad/kkcobra.html#t8
This is the cobra http://modelenginenews.org/ad/kkcobra.html#t8
Re: Non Cox .049s
AM had wenmac engines, they say made over here to wenmac designs
http://modelenginenews.org/ad/am049.html
Im still sure KK did the wenmac under some name or the other
http://modelenginenews.org/ad/am049.html
Im still sure KK did the wenmac under some name or the other
Re: Non Cox .049s
microflitedude wrote:
I know Kim strapped his down with a metal tie to a board, can't find his thread though.
I gouged out a hardwood block and used a piece of steel strap to hold it in place. Gonna do the same (with a little more finesse) for flying mount to use when I get the much-promised Q-Tee flying !
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Re: Non Cox .049s
MiniatureAircraftFactory wrote:AM had wenmac engines, they say made over here to wenmac designs
http://modelenginenews.org/ad/am049.html
Im still sure KK did the wenmac under some name or the other
That's the puppy! I knew I wasn't THAT senile!
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Re: Non Cox .049s
Ivanhoe wrote:
British(?) 049s, the (?) is because there is a lot of controvesy as to whether the AM 049 was actually made here, or made by McCoy and just "Badged"
Being involved in the UK model trade for 25 years, ive seen a lot of this, i believe parts were made in the USA and maybe put together there and supplied as badged as AM , but they may have possibly been put together here as import duty on parts was lower than complete items and to anyone it would look like manufacturing here with all the boxes of parts
in the mid 90s we used to import glowplug parts from USA and assemble them here with our own supplied element as it was cheaper than buying assembled glowplugs on the import tax
This is why we now specify formulated, 100% manufactured, packaged and distributed by StarLoc adhesives on our adhesive products so people get the idea we actually manufacture them 100%
Re: Non Cox .049s
MiniatureAircraftFactory wrote:Ivanhoe wrote:
British(?) 049s, the (?) is because there is a lot of controvesy as to whether the AM 049 was actually made here, or made by McCoy and just "Badged"
Being involved in the UK model trade for 25 years, ive seen a lot of this, i believe parts were made in the USA and maybe put together there and supplied as badged as AM , but they may have possibly been put together here as import duty on parts was lower than complete items and to anyone it would look like manufacturing here with all the boxes of parts
in the mid 90s we used to import glowplug parts from USA and assemble them here with our own supplied element as it was cheaper than buying assembled glowplugs on the import tax
This is why we now specify formulated, 100% manufactured, packaged and distributed by StarLoc adhesives on our adhesive products so people get the idea we actually manufacture them 100%
StarLoc eh? I've bought a lot of adhesives from you at one time or another!
Wilf
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Re: Non Cox .049s
Here's my latest acquisition, OK Cub .049 B with pull starter..
I fitted a new (genuine) pullcord, only to find that the recoil spring that is supposed to pull the cord back in after starting is broken. Since I think my chances of finding a new spring, and instructions for fitting it, are probably very low, (Although I will contact OK Engines and try) it's unlikely that I'll be starting it with the cord.
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Re: Non Cox .049s
wow there are some really nice engines on this thread
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Non Cox 049
Am looking to mount new Cox .049 in Wen Mac Corsair and Testors P40 RTF plastic airplanes. Presant engines are old(60's 70')w/ few parts available. Anyone done this?
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Re: Non Cox .049s
MMT wrote:Am looking to mount new Cox .049 in Wen Mac Corsair and Testors P40 RTF plastic airplanes. Presant engines are old(60's 70')w/ few parts available. Anyone done this?
I think, as we all advised you in your other thread about this, the idea of fitting Cox engines into non-Cox RTFs is really a non-starter. As several of us suggested, sort out the original engines, or replace them with better examples of the same engines
To fit a different engine would probably entail nothing less than cutting off the entire nose of the model, and somehow grafting a radial mount bulkhead in it's place, and even then there is no guarantee the models would fly properly.
Wilf
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Re: Non Cox .049s
Ivanhoe wrote:MMT wrote:Am looking to mount new Cox .049 in Wen Mac Corsair and Testors P40 RTF plastic airplanes. Presant engines are old(60's 70')w/ few parts available. Anyone done this?
I think, as we all advised you in your other thread about this, the idea of fitting Cox engines into non-Cox RTFs is really a non-starter. As several of us suggested, sort out the original engines, or replace them with better examples of the same engines
To fit a different engine would probably entail nothing less than cutting off the entire nose of the model, and somehow grafting a radial mount bulkhead in it's place, and even then there is no guarantee the models would fly properly.
Wilf
i agree with wilf, dont replace the origonal engine with another brand engine, to much damage will occur when trying to mount the new other brand motor
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Re: Non Cox .049s
You know there's always that challange thing/angle? We used to call it 'kit' bashing, like taking plastic model cars and putting part from one on another. Last night for fun I grabbed a basket case Wen-Mac Corsair and a Tee-Dee and with a little work and JB Weld it could be done...and you too could have a overpowered rocket.
Re: Non Cox .049s
Mark Boesen wrote:You know there's always that challange thing/angle? We used to call it 'kit' bashing, like taking plastic model cars and putting part from one on another. Last night for fun I grabbed a basket case Wen-Mac Corsair and a Tee-Dee and with a little work and JB Weld it could be done...and you too could have a overpowered rocket.
I've got a Wen Mac Aracobra/Kingcobra that may get a Tee Dee .049 grafted to it's nose. I know it'll just be a faster "rock-on-a-string", but would like to see it fly with a bit more authority!
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