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Post  Kim Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:48 pm

"Air Tractor in the Rain"

My battered crop duster goes for a flight around the hill in a steady drizzle, but the good part was, there was only a slight breeze from the south, and I pulled off two great (for me) landings in the front yard.

Afternoons like this take me back in the day, flying with my buds at the Cairo airport.  Sundays were often the only time we could all fly together, so if the weather was crummy, we'd stand in the door of an open hangar, while flying our planes in the rain, and call it a great time...which it was.

Also, starting repair work on the wing of the "Butterfly" motorglider, and did a bench run of a stray O.S. .46SF that has been laying in the darkness with its brothers for a few years.



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Post  MauricioB Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:53 pm

Hi Kim, nice to see you active.
The day lends itself to workshop work and nostalgia.
Flying days like this have a special charm, especially when it stops raining and the wind calms down, then the gust of post-combustion smoke from the engine remains in the air, it's beautiful!
Great camera in the cockpit!
I see you use a flap!...the Air Tractor is beautiful, by the way, what brand is it from?
A hug for you and I hope to see more of your videos!
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Post  Kim Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:09 pm

MauricioB wrote:Hi Kim, nice to see you active.
The day lends itself to workshop work and nostalgia.
Flying days like this have a special charm, especially when it stops raining and the wind calms down, then the gust of post-combustion smoke from the engine remains in the air, it's beautiful!
Great camera in the cockpit!
I see you use a flap!...the Air Tractor is beautiful, by the way, what brand is it from?
A hug for you and I hope to see more of your videos!

Hey Mauricio!

Thank you!

The plane is an E-Flite Air Tractor I bought used this past summer.  Yes...I LOVE flaps!  The speed they allow for landing is great and lets me really pick my touch-down point.

Take Care and have a Great Holiday Season!


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Post  rsv1cox Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:07 am

Another great video Kim. Love the inside the cockpit Go-pro. No drag. Learned something - heat the epoxy on a lamp. Makes dispensing so much easier. Don't know how much epoxy I have wasted pumping it out cold.

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Post  andrew Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:33 am

Great shop day video! Noticed you were well clear of the plane eating tree this time and greased it in nicely.

Like Bob, the epoxy heater is a tip to remember - I water bath mine or give the bottles a quick zap in the microwave.

I was a little surprised that the polyhedral wing tip was just butt joined without any through spar support. Although the spruce spars were capped with fiberglass, the size of the cap was pretty small and butt joining spruce, particularly 1/8 x 1/4 doesn't give much bonding area. I'm sure you will get that lined out.

We had a little splash of sunshine early on this side of the creek, but the day ended up cloudy and damp, although warm, as the front came through.

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Post  getback Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:44 am

Cool day in shop and flying all in one clip ! The Air Tractor is pretty impressive i looked at some of the video . RC Plane
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Post  Kim Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:26 pm

rsv1cox wrote:Another great video Kim.  Love the inside the cockpit Go-pro.  No drag.  Learned something - heat the epoxy on a lamp.  Makes dispensing so much easier.  Don't know how much epoxy I have wasted pumping it out cold.  

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Thanks Bob!!!

One note of caution from my VAST Epoxy Experience (in creating problems for myself, that is)...be SURE you just warm your epoxy to room temperature, or nearly so. I discovered that an excess amount of warming can turn your 5-minute epoxy into 1 1/2-minute epoxy!

"Let's just cut it out and do it again Kim"
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Post  Kim Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:39 pm

andrew wrote:Great shop day video!  Noticed you were well clear of the plane eating tree this time and greased it in nicely.  

Yeah, I'm not sure what the deal is with that.  The plane flys the same all the time so, I guess we know where the problem lives!!! Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy


Like Bob, the epoxy heater is a tip to remember - I water bath mine or give the bottles a quick zap in the microwave.  

I was a little surprised that the polyhedral wing tip was just butt joined without any through spar support.  Although the spruce spars were capped with fiberglass, the size of the cap was pretty small and butt joining spruce, particularly 1/8 x 1/4 doesn't give much bonding area.  I'm sure you will get that lined out.

Yeah...one great advantage is that the wing broke nice and clean  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked Won't happen again!!!  When I get done with my spar doublers, that sucker will create carnage the next time it breaks!!!!


We had a little splash of sunshine early on this side of the creek, but the day ended up cloudy and damp, although warm, as the front came through.

Well, if the wind will lay a bit, I can stand a bit of moisture or snow when the flying bug bites, and it's even fun...sorta.  Weird thing though...I had several warm, perfect days in a row a few weeks ago, and just WOULD NOT FLY ANYTHING.  Just Strange Old Guy Syndrome.
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Post  rsv1cox Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:06 pm

Yes, I do love that Crop Duster.

Was headed toward doing one in yellow based on the Air Truk (Paint scheme designed by Levent), then I got side-tracked by Mr. Mazda and Mr. Wankel.

But I do dearly love that .010 Avenger.

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Post  HalfaDave Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:09 pm

Hi Kim,
I like the forethought of putting the camera for a perfect landing. Sweet!
I am not the only one who likes flying over/under power lines. Thanks.
The Butterfly wings were made for lawn dart landings.
Last one I saw had an old .25
Wings folded 1/4 through a loop. Fuselage went up. As the wing panels fluttered down.
It was 6in deep in soft ground.
I think the Butterfly wings were designed for a nice Golden Bee.
But that is just me.
Keep having fun.
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Post  Kim Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:01 pm

HalfaDave wrote:Hi Kim,
I like the forethought of putting the camera for a perfect landing. Sweet!
Thank You!  I've reached the point where I almost always have SOME kind of camera on board when flying.  It comes in handy this time of year when flying tapers a bit, and gives me some entertainment with my hot chocolate.

I am not the only one who likes flying over/under power lines. Thanks.
The Butterfly wings were made for lawn dart landings.
Last one I saw had an old .25
Wings folded 1/4 through a loop. Fuselage went up. As the wing panels fluttered down.
It was 6in deep in soft ground.
I think the Butterfly wings were designed for a nice Golden Bee.
But that is just me.
Keep having fun.

Yeah...the Butterfly's fuse DOES look a bit like a javelin!!! Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  
I get chills thinking about the loops and snaps (almost too slow to call it a "snap"...but still) I hauled it through.  I DO believe the wing will be plenty strong once I brace the spars in both wings.  

This one is also powered by a .25---a fairly vintage O.S. and it gets along nicely.  
I've also got its little brother, the "Piece of Cake", built by my ex-father inlaw, and it's got a Black Widow in its snout.  So now, I'll probably be cutting some inspection holes in its wing to see if it's got the same butt-glued panels.


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Post  HalfaDave Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:41 pm

Hi Kim,
Thanks for making me laugh out loud.
Cleared out the boogers/snot in my nasal passeges. !
Having Fun.
Is what it is all about.
Leroy Cox was just a stepping stone.
A very solid stepping stone.
Having a Laugh flying is what it is all about.

10/20yrs ago we were flying off ice and snow.
Temp dipped in misty conditions.
Landed at full throttle.
Peeled off 1/8th in. of ice on all the flying surfaces.
The plane was more than twice the weight on landing, than takeoff.

Have Fun Kim,
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Post  66 Malibu Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:43 pm

Hi Kim,
Love your vid of the Dynaflite Butterfly that always brings a smile to my face.
Just curious if that model was also produced by Kyosho as the Papillon (Butterfly) and sold thru Hobby Lobby in the1960's and 70's?
I saw a vid on Youtube about 15 years ago by a Spanish guy who did the build and first flights with a NIB Cox QRC for power. Still trying to find that vid again but it must have been cleaned out by Youtube years ago.
I finally found one but needed the vid to spark me into action.
Great job, Steve.
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